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« on: September 23, 2009, 02:20:19 PM »

Captain's log, stardate 23092009.22

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 09:18:47 PM »

captains log, stardate 14022010.350

trancing note

1) meditation induced

using my usual meditation technique i have managed to achieve specific trance which I clarify as "empty mind" trance. In such trance it is easy to focus on one thing you want and cast out everything else. Prolonged use of trances may make you easier to fall into different trances

2) music induced

I have achieved this type of trance by listening to music I find psychedelic (every music effects different people in different ways). Way to recognize this state is that your mind feels like it operates differently, your muscles feel relaxed and you might feel slight tingling in your body (something like when I focus rage or energy with my mind). I believe these trances are very common, but unnoticed because they vary in "depth". While playing guitar hero with keyboard after few weeks without playing it, I have noticed that my hands work "by themselves" with little of mental control or willpower. While comparing this to my playing ability day after I have noticed that I played much worse without a trance.
This brings me to conclusion that trances "draw out" subconscious part of mind and suppress conscious. I have played guitar hero a lot and everything got "recorded" into my subconsciousness and trance only drew that out.

3) side effects, related to 1)

prolonged trancing may cause short term memory losses, slower reaction time, more often and more intense flashbacks (memories of past events triggered by smell, touch...), more often spacing out (getting lost in thoughts), dizziness (can be cured by sending psi in your head with intention of clearing out the dizziness, sometimes it works instantly sometimes in few tries, it's not extreme dizziness) and maybe something more. Most side effects disappear when you return to your "normal" mental operation, but flashback and spacing out might be permanent (I'm not sure about it being permanent it may be caused because i often manipulate my mind to manipulate emotions).

4) possible "triggers", related to 2)

I have noticed that electric guitar tunes of specific frequency, vocal repetition and instrumental repetition (such as mighty guitar riffs  Grin ) cause my mental state change.
In order to induce trance faster and stronger you need to wish it and listen to what cause you to get into one, then let go of your usual thinking and worries, give in to rhythm and enjoy the sensation you might feel. With very little effort you will notice "symptoms" described above.

I don't know how trancing effects emotional system because I have suppressed my emotions long ago   Roll Eyes

5) length of a trance

trances can last as long as you keep "using them". Once the trance is induced you can prolong it by concentration and/or specific breathing technique.

6) my opinion on trancing

Trancing is quite fun if you ask me. It brings you to different mental states you wouldn't know about. You feel more relaxed and focused (depending on type of trance). I don't know how it feels to be on drugs but I imagine it feels similar to this (why use drugs when you can feel the same way without bad consequences). I don't mind any of these side effects I mentioned, not even if those 2 may be permanent, it all adds to the appeal of trancing.

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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2010, 08:05:02 AM »

I have a question about the music trances.  How exactly does the music put you in a trance?  I am not saying it can't because I have felt a dramatic increase in power after hearing a certain song, but I was just wondering how music could do so (just in case I wanted to put myself in a trance)
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 12:15:37 PM »

You need to find music that affects you that way and you need to wish it to do so. I didn't feel effects until I firstly induced trance with meditation after that you might be more sensitive to psychological effects and it's easier to recognize if your consciousness is being altered. So only by listening to certain tunes (in my case electric guitar in Korn and Slipknot music and that sick voice and repetition of Korn singer). It's rather hard to explain I think that your will to get into a trance is a key to success. So I advise to experiment and monitor what is happening to your mind and consciousness because these things may go unnoticed.
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2010, 08:29:39 PM »

Alright will do
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2010, 12:45:29 PM »

Captains log, stardate 15052010.2039

I have attempted to get an OBE by putting my body to sleep while my mind remains awake. I haven't been doing that for some time. After few minutes I have noticed that only by shifting my awareness in any body part (leg, arm, etc...) makes it immediately relaxed and with slight ticklish feeling it feels really relaxed. I have no idea why it happens exactly but I think my mind immediately enforces my intention. So when I got very relaxed problem was I didn't knew how to separate myself from the body. I must look into it more and ask for help. I got some sensation described in some tutorials but as before it remained on that. It seems I'll have to work on it more.
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2010, 05:44:50 AM »

No luck with OBE-s for now. It seems it won't work for me late ant night because i'm bordering with sleep then nor in the morning for no obvious reason. The best resault I got so far was in the afternoon when I felt like it was close. I'll just keep on practicing.
I still work on closed eye sight but no notible progress so far. If I don't get anything soon or if I get frustrated I might email a scientist who says he has the abillity. He seems like a normal guy who might help.
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2010, 09:46:42 PM »

I have a question about the music trances.  How exactly does the music put you in a trance?  I am not saying it can't because I have felt a dramatic increase in power after hearing a certain song, but I was just wondering how music could do so (just in case I wanted to put myself in a trance)
some experiments have shown that when a drum is beat in a certin rythm your brain waves actually mimick the beat this can effectively to put you into an altered state of mind, its very interesting actually lol
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2010, 05:38:59 AM »

yes very interesting, that explains why tribal shamans use drums for trances. Good thing you have pinted that out I might start monitoring how drums affect me, I only monitored guitar for now.
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2010, 08:58:49 PM »

yes thats exactly why lol. i think thats a good idea let me know your results Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2010, 11:42:57 AM »

I've been working on OBEs for about a week now and still no success. I think I just may need more practice. Whenever I try to separate myself from the body I seem to be stuck in it. Perhaps in time I will be able to do it. So far no visualizations worked as expected, and trying to will myself out feel like I'm moving mass of energy but I still can't get out of my body so no use of it.

When it comes to that with drums, I've been monitoring how they affect me in music I listen to (metal \m/ ). I have noticed that those drums are quite chaotic but they still can induce mild trances. So I came to idea and downloaded shaman tribal drumbeat and meditated with it. In short time it caused me to became very relaxed. I felt just mass of energy where my body is supposed to be. So music seem to be distracting for OBEs so I waited for it to stop. When it did, I still couldn't get into OBE but first part of meditation was much faster.
Focusing on anything other than what your mind is usually focused on may induce trance if you want it and depending on your focus varies the depth of trance.
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2010, 03:25:31 PM »

Still no luck with OBE-s. I'm getting hopless but I'll keep on practising because my ankle is injured and I can't sit into position for other meditation techniques. I've been practicing a little sensing my surroundings and I think I'm getting better at it. Soon I might get scanning ability, I'll start working on it.
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2010, 03:28:17 PM »

Still no luck, but I think i'm getting close. And this meditation type and my attempts to OBE seem to help my scanning althou it's still undeveloped.
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2010, 05:56:24 PM »

I did a little research over the internet and there is no reference of anything related to suppressing emotions. I find it hard to believe that only I am the one who uses that ability or the only one who knows about it. My friend has told me that he uses it few years ago but I think he doesn't use it any longer.
I have noticed that I am sensitive to new people and new environments. When I first met one friend who is quite negative, it took me only about 5 min of talking to become suicidal. As I continued talking I got used to her and everything was fine. When I first came to my capital city, I felt quite afraid. Probably fear of unknown so I remembered that I should isolate myself to restore my normal inner peace. I isolated myself using my emotion control techniques and all was fine from then.
From about 2 weeks ago I have noticed increase in deja vus. It may be connected to my increase in meditation. They felt like I have seen these events in very far past, in my childhood.
I was away from home for almost a week and I had no chance to meditate so no progress in OBE-s.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2010, 06:40:11 PM »

http://bpd.about.com/od/livingwithbpd/a/suppress.htm
According to the article, it's actually bad to suppress emotions. If you are trying to not even have them in the first place then it's kind of contradictory to try to suppress them. Even if you are an empath suppressing them, it should still technically have the same result; their emotions and thoughts have become yours as well. The only way around this is to just passively observe them, meaning you make no biased observation about them. If you are pissed then observe your anger and say, "Oh, I'm pissed. Okay". Then you can just let the emotion dissipate. You could also convince yourself why there's no point to getting angry in the first place; there is no long-term benefit and only becomes detrimental to ones health. You get the gist of what I'm saying? You just got me interested because you said there is not even a reference to suppressing emotions. Did you look up "how to suppress emotions"?
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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2010, 07:32:29 PM »

It is standard for those practicing magick to exercise control over their emotions. To not do so is rarer (at least amongst those who actually practice) than to do so.
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2010, 03:44:12 AM »

http://bpd.about.com/od/livingwithbpd/a/suppress.htm
According to the article, it's actually bad to suppress emotions. If you are trying to not even have them in the first place then it's kind of contradictory to try to suppress them. Even if you are an empath suppressing them, it should still technically have the same result; their emotions and thoughts have become yours as well. The only way around this is to just passively observe them, meaning you make no biased observation about them. If you are pissed then observe your anger and say, "Oh, I'm pissed. Okay". Then you can just let the emotion dissipate. You could also convince yourself why there's no point to getting angry in the first place; there is no long-term benefit and only becomes detrimental to ones health. You get the gist of what I'm saying? You just got me interested because you said there is not even a reference to suppressing emotions. Did you look up "how to suppress emotions"?

I find it very easy to control or manipulate my emotions. I am very calm and I get angry very hard almost never, and if I do I easily can dissolve my anger. I have learned how to remove them using psi/energy. I've been living like this about 5 years barely using any emotions. I can decide if I want to love someone or not or fall in love or not.
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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2010, 12:47:13 PM »

How do you dissolve your anger? Convincing yourself to love someone is similar to what I can do as well. Only for one day I stared at a girl and thought about her good qualities. BAM! Suddenly I'm in love. It took me a couple of years to get over it. I get a thought once a month to three months about it though.
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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2010, 03:46:26 AM »

How do you dissolve your anger? Convincing yourself to love someone is similar to what I can do as well. Only for one day I stared at a girl and thought about her good qualities. BAM! Suddenly I'm in love. It took me a couple of years to get over it. I get a thought once a month to three months about it though.

Considering that emotions are energy, it means that you can control that energy if you can move it around your body or out of it. I've been using anger to enhance my speed and strength because fighting in emotionless state you can get overpowered sometimes. I did that by sending my rage into my muscles. By doing that and wanting it, it will enhance your speed and strenght but if you use it too much and if you force your body too much it may damage your heart.
Now to get to the point how to dissolve anger and any other emotion? You just send that energy into the groud if you want to or into a psiball and simply throw it away. I mostly don't have to do this because my anger goes away automatically.
While moving your emotions this way it caused me to feel them in different places of my body, so now I feel anger in my muscles, fear in my abdomen, love around my solar plexus and heart area (I havent had much of this emotion so I didn't move it much) and simmilar things.
Mastering your emotions will NOT save you from emotional suffering. If you allow yourself to fall in love and if it works out badly for you, you will suffer. These skills will make it easier but you will feel the pain  Grin (been there felt that).
If I don't want to fall in love with someone, while I talk I start to feel love so I just remove that love with a single thought and isolate myself from any further emotions and no propblem.
Hope this will help someone.
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2010, 03:19:21 PM »

Yesterday I went into my bedroom with intention of meditating and I saw on my wall a large bug, one of those myriapods. After resisting my urge to kill it (well if I can ignore all those spiders I've seen i guess I can ignore this bug too) I remembered my skill from last year. So I tried using my mind to make it move. It was surprisingly easy. I just focused and after about 10 - 20 seconds it started moving forward (up the wall). Then I decided I want to make it move to the left. It was a bit harder but, it started moving forward and it was "strafing" rather unnaturally towards left. After that I wanted it to turn left completely and after some focusing it did and then I lost my interest. I guess I could try developing this skill a bit.

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