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[Rohanraph]

The most debated subject in Mytelekinesis.com is about the astral veil that is falling.Even advanced people have different opinions about it ???Most of them say it will happen in 21-12-12.I & some people are the only ones against this.This is what my friend Nightking says


"Hey Rohanraph, sorry for the late responce your wright this veil crap is over rated for no reason, now their are some what truth in how it pretain to us, we as humans are moved and directed by energy any other forces, this have been here since the begining of time, but for people to say once the veil break powers going to decrease or increase is bull crap, man kind have been under attack for millions of years, the only way to protect yourself from outside forces is to increase your awareness, with increaced awareness will also bring about more power with in your self and your energy bodies."

What do you think ?

 

[Rohanraph]

  No one interested

[The Adfeng]

I've heard of this many times before.  I do not give any credit to this whatsoever.  It is more or less another "2000" rumor that will eventually die down next year.

[yamitenshi]

Whenever people talk about this, my first question is "What is this astral veil exactly, and what will happen if it falls?"

I haven't gotten the same answer twice, which does not exactly lend credibility to the idea that such a thing as an "astral veil" even exists. The only common ground is that it is something that separates something from something else, so technically my bedroom door qualifies.

[tor86]

I've heard about this. I think "Apocalypse" means lifting of the veil. So it's not the end of the world, it's just that the unseen becomes visible. Has anybody else heard about this?

[yamitenshi]

Apocalypse means something along the lines of revelation. "Lifting of the veil" is another possibility, but the meaning is probably more symbolic than pertaining to an actual veil of any kind. But who knows?

[DreadLobster]

I've heard about it and studied it a few times.
Even got a few people to study upon it.

Basically the veil is a barrier that separates all astral realms from the physical realm.

Most say that it was created by human and entity magickians due to the population of humans going very close to extinction due to lack of knowledge, and numbers and supposedly other variables.

You hear about this with many religions, on the veil being strongest in the spring/summer and weakest in the winter months.

We have more info, but for this post I'll only give a brief intro.
We are not fully sure it will fall, but we are intelligent enough and found enough things to not tell you that it will not fall.

Generally this talk has been around for many years, infact if looked through certain eyes you can connect many dots(hopefully its not madness setting in, but the very fact we define ourselves as men who can move objects with our minds, control reality, talk to entities and other such we weren't totally sane to begin with, haha.)
Happy Holidays, folks.

[FireWithin]

Hmmm, it sure does sound like it has an relation to borders which are said to be weakend on Samhain or Halloween. Isn't supposedly when the spirits of the dead may roam the earth? Most likely some guy found it more fun to create another name, which maybe created confusion when the term passed around the different forums. I believe that some rituals in magick are somewhat hightend during this period. This might apply for psionics too, since it is a paradigm of magick. I cannot say this with 100 % certainly due to the fact that I haven't actually preformed any staggering or interesting things during Halloween.

[Rohanraph]

Well the way it is said by MyTK members will make anyone who read it made me think it is stupid.There is some reality in what they are saying but suggestions members like Bbdeathsparks ,Eric Baal is totally stupid.They say we all will die and asked us to leave our houses before it happened.

To me that many in that site are mad.Bbdeathsparks claims he is the son of death.And many believed it(Fluffbunnies?)

[yamitenshi]

If we'd all die, what's the point of leaving your house?

[FireWithin]

Yes wouldn't be better to place wards after wards around your house and hope for the best in that case...

[shade000]

Take everything wuth a gain of salt. Do i thnk the Veil is real? Sure.
Do i think we are all SOL if it falls? No.

[flamedancer]

There is no such thing as an astral veil. If we say that the astral world is non physical and we have an interaction between the physical and non physical world where the physical world is defined by being causally enclosed in a spatialtemporal instance and the non physical is defined by not being causally enclosed, then this means that the physical world is a subset of the non physical one. In other words, every physical object is contained within a non physical space where the physical world would simply be relational. It is like asking what an electron is in itself. It is nothing in itself, for it is a relationship. What we have is something that relates to a particular symmetry. Relative to what people call the astral, the physical world is nothing more than the end process, or finished product, in terms of aition of a thing.     

[tor86]

I have a feeling that the world as it is now is very depressing. Maybe the old paradigm of reality has to change. That can maybe mean that this reality has to move up one level, like dreams mingle with reality or something, because the old is no longer working. Maybe that is the veil lifting, to a lesser degree?? who knows...