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yamitenshi
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« on: August 09, 2011, 05:29:18 PM »

I've been trying to use a method of scanning described in an article, which consists of visualizing a hand made of psi coming out of your body and feeling the energy. Now, this makes sense to me, and I see three importance of being able to tell whether that funny feeling is indeed a psiball and not just your blood pressure, but I have one, maybe very stupid question: What do I scan? I could try making a construct, but I won't know the technique works until I'm certain I've actually made anything, and I won't be sure the I've made anything until I know the technique works. So where should I begin? Should I try metaphysically feeling up my girlfriend? Or will an inanimate object do?
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 05:57:58 PM »

What do I scan?
  Time for an experiment.
So where should I begin? Should I try metaphysically feeling up my girlfriend? Or will an inanimate object do?
  Try an experiment. 
 -  Find a random number generator online, get a page number of a book you've never read, or use google books/download an ebook, and try to scan what words are printed.  (e.g. number is 24341 -> p243 - sentence 4 - letter 1, so ppp-s-l)
 -  Consider checking gotpsi (1) or rpck experiments. (2)
 -  Use a random number generator (3) on your computer, and set the window size so you can see the generate button but not the number.  Then see if you can scan the sense the correct number.

Should I try metaphysically feeling up my girlfriend?
HEY LOOK THIS GUY HAS A GIRLF-Sure, go ahead.  This may be some interference or issue because there is a bit of a difference between scanning a person and an inaminate object.  Don't do it to people without their permission.  Some people don't like it and some people don't care but freak out anyway because they didn't realize what was going on.

Or will an inanimate object do?
  Find a live webcam/security cam feed and try to scan details of the area before checking if you are right with the webcam.  (4)

sites to use for above:
(1) gotpsi.org/html/gotpsi.htm
(2) www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experiments
(3) random.org
(4) earthcam.com/mapsearch
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2011, 02:19:46 PM »

I've been trying the fourmilab exercises a few times with varying results, but I guess I have'nt been specific enough. What I'm trying to achieve is a way to verify whether or not I've actually made a construct or not, and in once I've achieved that specific goal, to verify the programming of said construct. But to be able to verify the existence of the construct, I need to practice feeling/sensing psi. However, I think that for this I need to have something to feel/sense, and without at least a basic mastery of sensing/feeling psi, I can't be sure what I'm feeling is actually there at all. Hence my dilemma. Will learning to scan inanimate objects and people help me verify the existence and the programming of my constructs?

EDIT: To be a bit more specific, the technique I'm trying to use is from an article about sensing by stolide.
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2011, 06:07:44 PM »

I've actually made a construct or not, and in once I've achieved that specific goal, to verify the programming of said construct.
To verify whether or you have not made a construct is best done by experimentation, no?
But to be able to verify the existence of the construct, I need to practice feeling/sensing psi.
Not neccessarily.  However, learning to feel/sense psi is of great importance.  I would actually recommend feeling/sensing things that are not your own constructs as well as your own constructs.  So, scan inanimate objects and constructs and compare/contrast.  Do not assume anything, but do not discount what you feel for assumptions.
I can't be sure what I'm feeling is actually there at all. Hence my dilemma.
Your dilemma is that without experimentation you cannot tell if the construct you made and feel is actually there or not without experimentation.  Your dilemma, a common dillema, is that you wish for verification (proof) that your technique of sensing works and thus can be trusted like any other "real" sense and not just a figment of your imagination.
Will learning to scan inanimate objects and people help me verify the existence and the programming of my constructs?
That depends on you.  Generally, I would assume any scanning would help your scanning of construct programming.  This may only be true for me and end up being completely wrong for you, which is the reason it is an assumption.

My suggestion still holds.  Experiment.  Do not experiment with the specific goal of sensing your construct. Experiment with sensing.  Will sensing inanimate objects differ from sensing constructs, or humans?  Who knows.  Time to try it out.  Keep a journal, whether on paper, in your thoughts, or even in .txt, on your results.  Was it different to scan constructs in contrast to inanimate objects?  Why or why not?  Was there a difference between scanning a human being and a construct?  A human being you have an emotional connection with and a stranger?  Why or why not?

You don't learn sensing to merely solve the problem of not being to verify constructs.  You learn sensing to open your eyes.

Get excited!  Play around, experiement, see what works and write it down.  I wouldn't limit your beginning of scanning to just verifying constructs or worrying about verifying constructs.  Scan all the things, and see if it works.  Experiment to see if your tales hold true.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2011, 02:24:11 AM »

Notagh, I don't know if this is posted but could you make an article from this if you have time? I find it very helpfull and I think a lot of people would find this interesting.

P.S. Just copying your two posts would do.  Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2011, 05:05:05 AM »

You know Notagh, you're making a lot of sense here. I guess the only way is to try, and keep trying, and indeed, if I can scan an inanimate object or a person, I should also be able to sense a construct. And besides, learning to scan things other than my own constructs has uses all of its own. I think I forgot how important experimentation is when trying to understand something for which you have no real reference. Thanks for reminding me of that and putting me back on the right track Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2011, 04:14:00 AM »

You know Notagh, you're making a lot of sense here. I guess the only way is to try, and keep trying, and indeed, if I can scan an inanimate object or a person, I should also be able to sense a construct. And besides, learning to scan things other than my own constructs has uses all of its own. I think I forgot how important experimentation is when trying to understand something for which you have no real reference. Thanks for reminding me of that and putting me back on the right track Smiley
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Notagh, I don't know if this is posted but could you make an article from this if you have time? I find it very helpfull and I think a lot of people would find this interesting.

P.S. Just copying your two posts would do.  Cheesy
I'll try to write the article, but I think I'll just post it as a topic or as a response to this post.  Hopefully it will help more people.  

EDIT:  Well, I wrote up a quick post trying to convey my idea in an article-like form.  I'm half-asleep, so I will get back to fixing it.  In the meanwhile any crticism/advice/thoughts/corrections/etc are welcome.

Experimenting with Psi
  by Notagh
Experiment with psi.  It's fun, helpful, and will "teach" things to you in a great way.  You will learn in both the experience of finding the result you seek and the journey it took to seek it.

Why experiment?
Experimentation allows you to check your technique works by providing solid results.  Do not assume anything, but do not discount results because of assumptions.

Why is is better to experiment than ask questions/read articles?
If you have a question, it may be easier to just ask someone who did it before, or read how it works in an article.  Oftentimes, however, the information from these sources may not fit your specific "setting" or even be misleading.  Even if the information is great, and presented in an easy-to-understand form, I believe experimentation should be the first and foremost tool in any curious psion's arsenal.

Some Guidelines
- Use more general goals.
- Feel free to "wander" into directions that may appear during the course of the experiment.
- Keep a journal of the experiment.
- Keep a journal, whether on paper, in your thoughts, or even in .txt, on your results.
- Play around, experiment, see what works and write it down.


My advice in a nutshell:  Who knows?  Try it out.


Specifics:

I. Psychokinesis:   Due to wind/heat convection false positives possible in using the psiwheel, I do not recommend it.  Get creative with this one.  An idea is to fold a paper or foil stick figure and attempt to make it do push-ups or sit-ups.

II. Sensing:  Try to go through every day sensing one new thing.  Make a habit of sensing things, until you're used to it.  A more specific idea is to find webcams online (earthcam.com for example of a few) and to scan the areas depicted in the webcams.  Some webcams allow control of the webcam.  Try to sense, and check with the webcam.  Use a random number generator (random.org) on your computer, and set the window size so you can see the generate button but not the number.  Then see if you can scan the sense the correct number.

III. Energy Manipulation:  EM practice goes hand-in-hand with sensing practice.   Most people suggest repetitive practice.  Some people suggest regular low-creativity work that uses brute energy or focus.  Some people suggest regularly creating and experimenting with constructs as a part of your life.  Try out your own techniques.  A particular idea is to create a very physically detailed construct.  Try to scan and visualize the particular details of the construct.  Complex geometric shapes and movement can be difficult for certain types of thinkers to be able to visualize.  This is likely to be able to improved with practice.  Try to see if using EM can make life easier, or at least more interesting.

Simply:  Make psionic experimentation a part of your daily life.  Think of more creative ways to include "practicing" with psi in your life.
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EDIT 2: The article has been posted by the title "Learning by Experimenting" here:http://shiftedperspectives.net/forum/index.php/topic,1921.msg21444.html#msg21444
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