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« on: August 07, 2011, 12:31:23 AM »

I'm not new to psionics. I have been practicing and training with psi for close to a year now and I never been in a combat situation before. I plan on starting training for combat if I ever need to use it and I would just like to know some simple questions about what takes place in a psionic battle.

1. It psionic combat anything like a physical fight? Like use energy to increase the power of your physical attacks? Is it fast and require a lot of concentration?

2. I know that energy does little to no damage in the physical world during my training. So how exactly do you use it to attack someone else? How do you use constructs in a psionic combat?
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 07:06:54 AM »

1. It psionic combat anything like a physical fight? Like use energy to increase the power of your physical attacks? Is it fast and require a lot of concentration?

That would be true if you have constructs before you actually begin the fight. You can use constructs for draining and weakening the enemy, deluding their senses (or slowing down their reaction), or simply telepathically suggesting them that they don't want to fight or that they are scared. As I said it would be the best if you have prepared constructs before engage with opponent.


2. I know that energy does little to no damage in the physical world during my training. So how exactly do you use it to attack someone else? How do you use constructs in a psionic combat?

Your statement is wrong. Energy can influence and do damage a lot. You use energy for what you want. If you want do a long term damage and destroy someones life you can influence on every aspect of his life. If you want to merely cause some pain you can program a construct to cause pain or alter the energy frequency of target and eventually cause pain (and probably disease) on that place.

Sparing in psionic is in most cases just goes to destroying opponents shields or preventing opponent to manipulate energy.
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 07:35:26 AM »

Psionic combat probably will leave you drained of energy, especially if you are just throwing blobs of energy at each other. However, using techniques such as those Martin suggested would be much more efficient.

Psi can hurt you. In a mild scenario, you'll leave combat with a headache. However, many other things, physical and mental, can be done to you.
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 05:38:35 PM »

I didnt know programming energy could produce physical harm? I was under the impression that psi balls and psi blasts were just ways to help you control your energy outside of your physical bodies?

Just a random thought as I was ending my reply. Could I inject some of my energy into someones bodies physically and cause it to physical harm? that would be cool Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2011, 03:42:57 AM »

= I would just like to know some simple questions about what takes place in a psionic battle.
Everyone goes on with their day to day lives in a battle of energetic attrition.
1. It psionic combat anything like a physical fight? Like use energy to increase the power of your physical attacks? Is it fast and require a lot of concentration?
Nope, psionic fights don't involve any physical contact. A few martial arts take dips into it, such as placing your awareness to boost endurance. In this case don't put mental effort into things like this, put it into winning the fight.

2. I know that energy does little to no damage in the physical world during my training. So how exactly do you use it to attack someone else? How do you use constructs in a psionic combat?
The goal in most psionic scraps is to prevent the other person from being able to use energy. One method is through dissuasion. Physical damage is a hard way to do this, it's just too hard to accomplish. Making someone's life crap by ruining it with probability alterations is much easier.

It's not about hurting the person, its about harming his potential in life.
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2011, 09:50:34 AM »

Yes you can hurt someone, you can disrupt someones energy in some location,organ ,tissue and cause disease ..
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2011, 10:25:30 AM »

Yes you can hurt someone, you can disrupt someones energy in some location,organ ,tissue and cause disease ..

Causing disease? Weaken immunity is least possible way. Is there a way of such causes?
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2011, 01:00:10 PM »

I highly doubt that disrupting somebody's energy field would actually cause anything like disease. It might do something to hamper their psionic abilities though.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm no expert by any means.
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 05:41:03 AM »

To put it simple.. if you can heal an injury you can cause one. Body uses energy to maintain balance. If you disrupt energy body, you will influence physical and vice versa.
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2011, 06:23:32 AM »

To put it simple.. if you can heal an injury you can cause one. Body uses energy to maintain balance. If you disrupt energy body, you will influence physical and vice versa.

I won't suggest spending enormous effort even to influence the physical, the transition from pre-density, in this case using psionics manifest towards matter/reality is not as easy as you thought. The more efficient way is by took away one of the elements in the body, yet is not as easy as it sounds. It requires a comprehensive mind control, which linked to telepathy and thought forms.

I'm not sure if you can heal doesn't assure to injure, unless you used your ego while healing injuries, then it would make sense for you. Healing can works in two forms, transmitting and vamping(some people thought they had heal but instead draining their victims). Otherwise, I never really spared before, I gained interest in shielding instead of sending constructs/attacks, resulting excellence in shielding, poor in combat.


 
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2011, 04:00:17 PM »

To put it simple.. if you can heal an injury you can cause one. Body uses energy to maintain balance. If you disrupt energy body, you will influence physical and vice versa.

I won't suggest spending enormous effort even to influence the physical, the transition from pre-density, in this case using psionics manifest towards matter/reality is not as easy as you thought. The more efficient way is by took away one of the elements in the body, yet is not as easy as it sounds. It requires a comprehensive mind control, which linked to telepathy and thought forms.

I'm not sure if you can heal doesn't assure to injure, unless you used your ego while healing injuries, then it would make sense for you. Healing can works in two forms, transmitting and vamping(some people thought they had heal but instead draining their victims). Otherwise, I never really spared before, I gained interest in shielding instead of sending constructs/attacks, resulting excellence in shielding, poor in combat.



  In process of healing one aligns vibration of the sick area to the vibration of the the persons vibration in healthy part of body or or fills the injured part with needed energy (there are a lot of other visualsations that can be used).No matter what visualisation you are using if you do the opposite action you will  destroy balance or energy flow/vibration in that area and the disease will occur.
  If you understand on which principle works healing than you will understand how to reverse process. Here's a nice article in case you don't : http://shiftedperspectives.net/articles.php?id=46

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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2011, 10:22:36 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like everything you do to someone else with energy whether it's an attack or a healing technique it interacts with the energy body not the physical body? and whatever happenes to the energy body happens to the physical body as well?

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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2011, 02:07:28 AM »

Yes they are connected. When you want to heal a wound or disease you are not healing the physical body. You are healing the energy body (obviously because you are healing it with energy).
If you attack someones energy body you cause damage to the physical (or ad least weaken it so that the disease/malfunction will develop there). How many time and energy you want to put in that depends on the amount of damage you want to do . Of course the more skillful you are in EM easier it would be.

p.s. I would not advise you to try hurt someone with this because you can cause to person something you may regret.
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2011, 05:29:58 AM »

What I understood of healing physical wounds was that it mostly uses DMILS (Direct Mental Interaction with Living Systems). So basically, you'd be using a form of PK to for instance locally accelerate blood coagulation or cell regrowth. Personally, I find that a lot easier to believe than that healing an energy body which is in not-yet-certain ways connected to the physical body would actually cause a physical wound to heal faster. If this were true, wouldn't it be so that disabling someone's "energetic arm" would disable this person's physical arm as well, for instance?
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2011, 06:23:44 AM »

To put it simple.. if you can heal an injury you can cause one. Body uses energy to maintain balance. If you disrupt energy body, you will influence physical and vice versa.

I won't suggest spending enormous effort even to influence the physical, the transition from pre-density, in this case using psionics manifest towards matter/reality is not as easy as you thought. The more efficient way is by took away one of the elements in the body, yet is not as easy as it sounds. It requires a comprehensive mind control, which linked to telepathy and thought forms.

I'm not sure if you can heal doesn't assure to injure, unless you used your ego while healing injuries, then it would make sense for you. Healing can works in two forms, transmitting and vamping(some people thought they had heal but instead draining their victims). Otherwise, I never really spared before, I gained interest in shielding instead of sending constructs/attacks, resulting excellence in shielding, poor in combat.



  In process of healing one aligns vibration of the sick area to the vibration of the the persons vibration in healthy part of body or or fills the injured part with needed energy (there are a lot of other visualsations that can be used).No matter what visualisation you are using if you do the opposite action you will  destroy balance or energy flow/vibration in that area and the disease will occur.
  If you understand on which principle works healing than you will understand how to reverse process. Here's a nice article in case you don't : http://shiftedperspectives.net/articles.php?id=46



So did you succeed in destroying the energy flow in this case? Did you ever tried? Not as easy as the words explains.
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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2011, 01:46:03 PM »

Yes I did a did a lot of healing (successfully) and also , I did experiment in pumping a some minor amount of low vibrational energy in my leg  and caused myself pain in that part. I know that it can be autosuggestion but I never wanted to experiment on someone else...
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2011, 02:04:40 PM »

Yes I did a did a lot of healing (successfully) and also , I did experiment in pumping a some minor amount of low vibrational energy in my leg  and caused myself pain in that part. I know that it can be autosuggestion but I never wanted to experiment on someone else...

Awesome. Want to experiment on me?
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2011, 04:36:55 PM »

I told you I didn't wanted. Unfortunately that didn't changed.
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2011, 04:44:31 PM »

I think that as long as the person you're experimenting on agrees and you try to do nothing more than a mild painkiller can solve, it should be okay. Just my thoughts though.
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2011, 11:27:03 PM »

I don't mind though Cheesy

Just curious how it felts like
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