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[Pipsqueak]

I started focussing more on the dantien meditation and less on chakra meditation, and now I sometimes feel coldness (like applying TigerBalm or IcyHot or A535) on my solar plexus instead of the fuzzy warmth. Is this a sign that I should pay more attention to building energy in my solar plexus? Or is it normal? Please help!

[martin618]

Depends if the feeling is uncomfortable. If its uncomfortable that means that you are unbalanced in anahata chakra. If that becomes problem you should do yoga to balance yourself.

[Fujin]

Chakras are not always a valid form of practice in psi. A cold feeling can be anything. It's all about preception and how you sense and feel things around you. Use your your five senses on your energetic body while doing the meditation, see what happends and full around with your psi meanwhile. Yoga can help for relaxation but it's not needed if you don't want to put the time into it rather just meditate up to 30 minutes to an hour when you can that can help with the energy flow.

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I started focussing more on the dantien meditation and less on chakra meditation, and now I sometimes feel coldness (like applying TigerBalm or IcyHot or A535) on my solar plexus instead of the fuzzy warmth. Is this a sign that I should pay more attention to building energy in my solar plexus? Or is it normal? Please help!

Sometimes coldness >> define sometimes. Irregular. Uncertain. Not clear. = something not right in your body.
Instead of fuzzy warmth >> as in you usually feel fuzzy warmth or you know it supposed to be fuzzy warmth?

Is this a sign I should pay more attention in solar plexus?
We are unique. What do you feel is appropriate for you rather than what ought to be?

[martin618]

Chakras are not always a valid form of practice in psi. A cold feeling can be anything. It's all about preception and how you sense and feel things around you.

Valid or not valid I'm just answering his question. As is said if it's comfortable it means that, probably, it's his way of experiencing. Some people sense psi as cold energy not warm.

Yoga can help for relaxation but it's not needed if you don't want to put the time into it rather just meditate up to 30 minutes to an hour when you can that can help with the energy flow.

One of uses of yoga is balancing physical and energetic body. Relaxation is just one of the consequences. Don't talk about the system if you don't ad least what is use of it. And also meditation if part of yoga and probably it is invented by yogis.

[stolide]

Yoga can help for relaxation but it's not needed if you don't want to put the time into it rather just meditate up to 30 minutes to an hour when you can that can help with the energy flow.

One of uses of yoga is balancing physical and energetic body. Relaxation is just one of the consequences. Don't talk about the system if you don't ad least what is use of it. And also meditation if part of yoga and probably it is invented by yogis.

Meditation has been around as long as mysticism.

In modern western civilization, yoga is primarily used to relax, not to balance the energetic body. Most Americans do not even believe in an energetic body, even the ones that practice yoga.

Typically, one uses a system or tool for its consequences. The only other reason is to use the system for the act of using the system itself.

To say that one should not speak of something unless one knows everything about it is preposterous.

For the purposes of relaxing, just about anything will do, including yoga, meditation, reading, eating, drinking, and watching television.

[martin618]

Meditation has been around as long as mysticism.

And also meditation if part of yoga and probably it is invented by yogis.

In modern western civilization, yoga is primarily used to relax, not to balance the energetic body. Most Americans do not even believe in an energetic body, even the ones that practice yoga.

Well I'm not American nor i bother myself with what general American population believes. I just mentioned yoga as good way of balancing energetic body because he was talking about chakras ad tantien therefore he DO believes in energetic body.

Typically, one uses a system or tool for its consequences. The only other reason is to use the system for the act of using the system itself.

Using yoga for relaxation is like using a monitor as mirror. Of course you can do it but rather buy yourself a mirror.

To say that one should not speak of something unless one knows everything about it is preposterous.

Don't talk about the system if you don't know ad least what is use of it.

For the purposes of relaxing, just about anything will do, including yoga, meditation, reading, eating, drinking, and watching television.

I absolutely agree with you.

[Dante_pk]

For the purposes of relaxing, just about anything will do, including yoga, meditation, reading, eating, drinking, and watching television.

These  will not relax mind and body completely. Even sleeping in most cases can't relax your body and mind completely. The most efficient way of completely relaxing yourself is retaining consciousness while the physical body "sleeps". This is thoroughly demonstrated in yoga nidra.

[stolide]

For the purposes of relaxing, just about anything will do, including yoga, meditation, reading, eating, drinking, and watching television.

These  will not relax mind and body completely. Even sleeping in most cases can't relax your body and mind completely. The most efficient way of completely relaxing yourself is retaining consciousness while the physical body "sleeps". This is thoroughly demonstrated in yoga nidra.

The only way to completely relax the body is death. The only way to completely relax the mind is brain-death. Think about it for a minute. If the body completely relaxes, the respiratory and cardiovascular systems stop. You could hold that up for a few minutes before actually dying I suppose.

Relaxing the mind is a metaphorical idea. In context, it means thinking less (And taken to an extreme with yogic tendencies, can lead to the idea of "no-thought."). Being completely unconscious involves less thinking than being conscious, or partially conscious. Thus, "retaining consciousness while the physical body 'sleeps,'" would involve relaxing, though not completely, the body, and to some extent relaxing the mind.

A bit further though, why is complete, or near complete, relaxation desirable? What purpose is there to such a way of being? I am inclined to say that relaxation is only beneficial if one is stressed. There is a middle point that is ideal, a balance between being overly relaxed, and overly stressed. Some amount of stress is desirable. Stress inspires action, relaxation inspires inaction. One could think of each begetting offspring unto their own kind.

If one is overly stressed, they will be quite active, in fact so active so as to be detrimental, sometimes one needs to let things be. You can see this in "snappy" behavior involving over reacting to a slight stimulus. If one is overly relaxed, they tend to do little. Such people are "under-achievers." They are satisfied with what they have, and are perfectly willing to lay down on the job. "No worries man. It's all good! Chill, relax, mellow out." An excess of either stress, or relaxation, is not beneficial.

[yamitenshi]

I guess complete relaxation means preservation of only the bare minimum of functionality, e.g. having no excess muscle tension and being able to completely focus one's attention on exactly one thing at a time, with no distractions creeping in. Or at least in this case.