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[K-Mentalz]

When you guys spar, what kind of strategies do you guys use? For example, how do you guys incorporate mine constructs, pain inducing constructs, or just constructs in general into a strategy when sparring? What defenses do you use when sparring and how do you use them strategically?

[Notagh]

That depends on the sparring.  If the sparring lets you create shields previously, if the rules let you scan defenses before the attacks get the go, maybe if you already know something of the style of the person you are trying to spar..  

Basically no matter what strategy you use, you should always be ready to improvise.  Assume your strategy will fail, and prepare for the consequences.

[K-Mentalz]

Have you sparred before Notagh?

[The Adfeng]

I've only sparred once or twice in my entire time as a psion.  There's only one that I definately remember.  I decided to let someone attack my shields without me doing anything about it(I just stopped attacking) and it took them about an hour or two, I believe, for them to break down my shields without them healing or my sentinels interrupting.

Would love to try to spar again, sometime.  I'm a bit rusty.

[Notagh]

I've only sparred once or twice in my entire time as a psion.  There's only one that I definately remember.  I decided to let someone attack my shields without me doing anything about it(I just stopped attacking) and it took them about an hour or two, I believe, for them to break down my shields without them healing or my sentinels interrupting.

Would love to try to spar again, sometime.  I'm a bit rusty.

Pretty much this, except I never want to spar again, lol.  Tried to set up some sparring matches, made some rules, didn't work out so well.  I think the last time I got attacked in a manner even slightly related to sparring was when mech and me were messing in chat and Adfeng suggested we try something  Call me paranoid, but I don't even scan unverified things now.  Keeps me safe, so I'm happy

[DreadLobster]

Ive sparred like 15 or 20 times my whole time doing psionics, was in an active community with people with really good scanning abilities, we did all kinds of sparrs, like 1v1v1v1:  2v2:   3v3:   3v1:  tho we did one versus one mainly, they were really fun and great practice. What I usually did is make clones and replace the signature of my energy in my words with my clones, there were always traces of mine so some of the attacks got to me. I would set up energy as a shield around the person that either drained there attacks and let them go through or drained them and didn't allow their attacks to go through.
made these sorta disk saws that had liketripod and held onto their shield and cut its way through that had a really high vibration as to interrupt the energies vibration. My main strategy was always be offensive to continuesly focus on attacking and have my Shields with their own source of energy(mostly me so they didn't cut the sources off).

That strategy worked for me cause we were not as advanced in lots of things at those times.
But that strategy might not work on someone who knows what they are doing lol.

[K-Mentalz]

Nice. We should set some stuff like that here. It would be great practice and fun for everyone.

[Notagh]

Nice. We should set some stuff like that here. It would be great practice and fun for everyone.

If we have a good scanner, lol.  When the scanner sucks, stuff tends to go wrong.
@lobster:  If you were your own source of energy, wouldn't it run out if they just focused on pounding you with everything?  I hate the idea that you could take energy from the shield and take it from you indirectly.

[K-Mentalz]

Are you a good scanner Notagh?

[DreadLobster]

@Notagh well its sorta of a last resort thing to use my own energy.
For someone to become a good scanner they need to try it on alot of people so they get validated, and they don't see other things.

[Notagh]

Are you a good scanner Notagh?

Question is irrelevant for your purposes here.  I am not going to ref a sparring match.  

[Mech]

Aha, good times Notagh, and by good I mean, that was the most frustrating hour of my life. At least my scans got "notable mentions" in your research. I can't really remember, didn't you create an alias, and that created alias became a thoughform with defenses that got tripped and rained mediocre destruction on both of us?

 I guess the best strategy is to use is relatively "injure" your opponent more than he relatively "injures" you. Minimizing damage done to you, while maximizing damage done to him. It's a simple concept. I assume you can use "The Art Of War" in sparring. IDK.

[Shinichi]

You know, it surprises me how few people employ de-programming, construct hacking (reprogramming the opponents construct to make it yours), and similar things in psionic combat strategy.

Perhaps such things are rude in a formal psionic sparring match, but it should be remembered that sparring is originally a means of safely practicing skills that are meant to be used in live combat. If you treat it as a game, then if the time ever comes when you actually have to defend yourself from someone who is trying to seriously hurt and maybe even kill you, then you will not have the capability (in skill or stability) to defend yourself accordingly.

Warfare is not a game. It is a place where good men and women and warriors and civilians alike die horrible deaths. This should be remembered, respected, and studied by those who aspire to be Warriors and live a long healthy life.



~:Shin:~

[The Adfeng]

I agree that combat should not be taken as something to play around with.  You may think it is fun, but do not forget that it is combat and you can get hurt and hurt others.  This board is here to help everyone learn more about offensive and defensive combat, and learn how to use it, and use it only when necessary.

[Notagh]

You know, it surprises me how few people employ de-programming, construct hacking (reprogramming the opponents construct to make it yours), and similar things in psionic combat strategy.~:Shin:~

That's what I always was wondering.  Someone describes me their extremely complicated shield, but some of them never mention any defense against those techniques.  I was thinking, "what would you do if I just hacked into your shield?"

[Shinichi]

You know, it surprises me how few people employ de-programming, construct hacking (reprogramming the opponents construct to make it yours), and similar things in psionic combat strategy.~:Shin:~

That's what I always was wondering.  Someone describes me their extremely complicated shield, but some of them never mention any defense against those techniques.  I was thinking, "what would you do if I just hacked into your shield?"

But therein lies the problem. In a fully trained psion, who can manipulate energies easily and program/deprogram them easily, IS there a way to defend against such techniques?

If there isn't then in the hands of someone who is both skilled in the ways of energy working and strategy the entire collection of combat/sparring methods most commonly taught in psionics are rather useless in actual combat.



~:Shin:~

[Notagh]

You know, it surprises me how few people employ de-programming, construct hacking (reprogramming the opponents construct to make it yours), and similar things in psionic combat strategy.~:Shin:~

That's what I always was wondering.  Someone describes me their extremely complicated shield, but some of them never mention any defense against those techniques.  I was thinking, "what would you do if I just hacked into your shield?"

But therein lies the problem. In a fully trained psion, who can manipulate energies easily and program/deprogram them easily, IS there a way to defend against such techniques?

If there isn't then in the hands of someone who is both skilled in the ways of energy working and strategy the entire collection of combat/sparring methods most commonly taught in psionics are rather useless in actual combat.



~:Shin:~

Yeah, sure.  Isolate the "physical" medium of energy in a vacuum, keep vacuum tight.  If you need to reach out use movement medium of energy as such that the effect resembles radiation traveling through a vacuum..  Try it yourself, if you wish.  Make one and have at it.  I would be interested in your results, lol.

[The Adfeng]

You know, it surprises me how few people employ de-programming, construct hacking (reprogramming the opponents construct to make it yours), and similar things in psionic combat strategy.~:Shin:~

That's what I always was wondering.  Someone describes me their extremely complicated shield, but some of them never mention any defense against those techniques.  I was thinking, "what would you do if I just hacked into your shield?"

But therein lies the problem. In a fully trained psion, who can manipulate energies easily and program/deprogram them easily, IS there a way to defend against such techniques?

If there isn't then in the hands of someone who is both skilled in the ways of energy working and strategy the entire collection of combat/sparring methods most commonly taught in psionics are rather useless in actual combat.



~:Shin:~

Yeah, sure.  Isolate the "physical" medium of energy in a vacuum, keep vacuum tight.  If you need to reach out use movement medium of energy as such that the effect resembles radiation traveling through a vacuum..  Try it yourself, if you wish.  Make one and have at it.  I would be interested in your results, lol.

Would love to describe how my shields function, but that would ruin the security of them.  I can say that I do something similar to that, though.  And much, much more.

Yes, I do have anti-hack and anti-movement programming.

[Shinichi]

Yeah, sure.  Isolate the "physical" medium of energy in a vacuum, keep vacuum tight.  If you need to reach out use movement medium of energy as such that the effect resembles radiation traveling through a vacuum..  Try it yourself, if you wish.  Make one and have at it.  I would be interested in your results, lol.

You need to better define "physical medium of energy" (do you mean it's actual substance, or something actually physical?) and "vacuum." (do you mean a vacuum like space, shifting the energy to another frequency/vibration, or the house hold vacuum cleaner?  )

I probably wont be able to do it for a while anyway, but being a martial artist I like to know potential weapons and how to use and defend against them. And this is one of the first times I've met people with defense against de-programming and hacking, so my interest is piqued.

Also, while on the subject of uncommon psionic attacks, what of attacking with psychokinesis? Not picking people up and throwing them around, but psychokinetically manipulating future probability to give them a string of what may be perceived simply as "bad luck" by most people. This is actually one of the most (if not THE most) common methods of attack in magick warfare, yet I very rarely see it mentioned by psions. 



~:Shin:~

[zelvicx2059]

Yeah, sure.  Isolate the "physical" medium of energy in a vacuum, keep vacuum tight.  If you need to reach out use movement medium of energy as such that the effect resembles radiation traveling through a vacuum..  Try it yourself, if you wish.  Make one and have at it.  I would be interested in your results, lol.

You need to better define "physical medium of energy" (do you mean it's actual substance, or something actually physical?) and "vacuum." (do you mean a vacuum like space, shifting the energy to another frequency/vibration, or the house hold vacuum cleaner?  )

I probably wont be able to do it for a while anyway, but being a martial artist I like to know potential weapons and how to use and defend against them. And this is one of the first times I've met people with defense against de-programming and hacking, so my interest is piqued.

Also, while on the subject of uncommon psionic attacks, what of attacking with psychokinesis? Not picking people up and throwing them around, but psychokinetically manipulating future probability to give them a string of what may be perceived simply as "bad luck" by most people. This is actually one of the most (if not THE most) common methods of attack in magick warfare, yet I very rarely see it mentioned by psions. 



~:Shin:~

He probably means by vacuum the shifting of energy to another frequency.

Other people don't believe in bad luck and it barely affects them. But in another case other people don't but really have a bad luck.

Although the bad luck thing is quite nice.