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« on: December 18, 2010, 05:28:27 PM »

This is a little technique I use to make constructs faster by moving psi with my conscious/subconscious. Its like moving psi the same way as you would move your limbs. Its kind of hard to explain, but I will try my best to make this make sense to you guys.

First you make a regular psiball and program it to link to your subconscious. Then program it to move the psi around you according to your thought impulse of moving a limb. After you make this construct, test it out by trying to move the psi around you just by feeling it move like an arm or a hand.

After that, make a sub-construct inside of the previous "Subconscious Construct" to link to you conscious and program it to give the psi around you form and structure based off of strictly your conscious thoughts. This will allow you to simply consciously think of a construct and have it form for you as you think of it without going through the time consuming process of making a construct with your hands. So, basically you can make constructs instantly just by thinking about it.

Oh yeah, im well aware that you can do this process without the use of making constructs, but I just wanted to provide an instructional way for other psions that don't know how to do it. If you have questions, suggestions, or comments feel free to post.

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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2010, 11:31:20 AM »

Few questions....

Is it possible for someone to create such a construct with A.I. learning capabilities without consciously being aware of it or being possessed/driven insane by it? Or if you are aware of it, how would such a construct work? what are the drawbacks of such a system? And most importantly, how could you make something like this without it going rogue?
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2010, 01:34:18 PM »

Most important one, hmm?  Let's see.
how could you make something like this without it going rogue?
 What is a construct?  Do you mean thoughtform?  As in a form, perhaps of the psionic phenomena, that is given characteristics/form/function by a thought?  Your thought, perhaps?  If so, can you control your own thoughts?

Unless you happen to be the best psion, or perhaps the second best psion, in all of recorded history, the answer is no.

If the thought that controls your thoughtform changes, it can start to behave in a way defined as "rogue".  You can put all the safeguards you want but the thoughtform is something that can be changed.  While not likely, even a thought such as "1+1=2" or something even more obvious like "    " can change.  

In practice, though, it's pretty simple to keep your constructs from going rogue.*  Have the thought run in read-only format. xD

*Mostly.
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2010, 04:18:08 PM »

Few questions....

Is it possible for someone to create such a construct with A.I. learning capabilities without consciously being aware of it or being possessed/driven insane by it?

Hmmmm. I don't think it would be possible for someone to unconsciously make an A.I. construct with learning abilities because a construct like that would require very specific functions for it to even function correctly with A.I.. I do believe that people can unconsciously make simple constructs, and maybe even complex ones; but these type of constructs would just have random functions and because of this, they wouldn't be that effective in carrying out tasks.

And most importantly, how could you make something like this without it going rogue?

Like Notagh said, you can put various safeguards on the construct to prevent it from going "rogue." With the construct I made, I simply added an "on and off switch" construct that shuts down all the functions of the conscious/subconscious construct when I think of the trigger-word I set for it. That prevents the conscious/subconscious construct from making random constructs when im not trying to make a construct.
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2010, 07:50:40 PM »


Hmmmm. I don't think it would be possible for someone to unconsciously make an A.I. construct with learning abilities because a construct like that would require very specific functions for it to even function correctly with A.I.. I do believe that people can unconsciously make simple constructs, and maybe even complex ones; but these type of constructs would just have random functions and because of this, they wouldn't be that effective in carrying out tasks.



okay how about a twin or clone construct then?

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Like Notagh said, you can put various safeguards on the construct to prevent it from going "rogue." With the construct I made, I simply added an "on and off switch" construct that shuts down all the functions of the conscious/subconscious construct when I think of the trigger-word I set for it. That prevents the conscious/subconscious construct from making random constructs when im not trying to make a construct.


Sounds like it just like using a pair of 'jumper cables' or 'hot wiring' the sub/conscious with constructs and then it goes from there.
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2010, 08:42:54 PM »

I like to give my constructs A.I. the ability to think for their own to a certain extent so they don't get too tempted to go rogue, but they also must swear allegiance to me.  If they decide to turn rogue, the rest of them destroy it instantly.  It's a nice system.

My shields are kind of the same way.  But I provide them with energy and programming, and they provide me with the things that I need them to do.  Kind of a mutualistic type of relationship going.
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2010, 11:24:54 PM »

  But I provide them with energy and programming, and they provide me with the things that I need them to do.  Kind of a mutualistic type of relationship going.

Nice, I never thought about that! I might tweak my conscious/ subconscious construct to establish a mutualistic relationship with my energy system to keep it in shape. Thats smart thinking Adfeng!
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2010, 12:52:09 AM »

  But I provide them with energy and programming, and they provide me with the things that I need them to do.  Kind of a mutualistic type of relationship going.

Nice, I never thought about that! I might tweak my conscious/ subconscious construct to establish a mutualistic relationship with my energy system to keep it in shape. Thats smart thinking Adfeng!

Thanks.  I've just learned a lot from everyone else I've talked to about everything.
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2010, 02:56:29 PM »

Ive never had a construct go rouge.
What exactly makes it go rouge?
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2010, 11:57:48 PM »

Ignoring it makes it go rogue; fail programming makes it go rogue.
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This will allow you to simply consciously think of a construct and have it form for you as you think of it without going through the time consuming process of making a construct with your hands. So, basically you can make constructs instantly just by thinking about it.
Isn't this the basics to making a construct anyways?

Also don't let this sound rude, but Adfeng, doesn't that method seem fluffy to you? Join me or you die, pseudoconscious thoughtform! I dunno, seems superfluous and childish to me, when you can just program obedience in.
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2011, 09:45:34 AM »

Everything has ups and downs. So having a mutualistic relationship can have down sides too right?
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2011, 03:51:40 PM »

Everything has ups and downs. So having a mutualistic relationship can have down sides too right?

Mutualistic means both receive benefits.  As far as my shields and sentinels are concerned, they are not effecting me negatively, and I am not effecting them negatively.

But yes, get back on topic.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2011, 06:29:59 PM »

Few questions....

Is it possible for someone to create such a construct with A.I. learning capabilities without consciously being aware of it or being possessed/driven insane by it? Or if you are aware of it, how would such a construct work? what are the drawbacks of such a system? And most importantly, how could you make something like this without it going rogue?

I can't answer the "without making you insane part" with an answer that comes from experience but through learning the hard way about all the other parts here's what I have experienced.

My consciousness or mind or whatever can be anywhere in my body and "think" and I can feel that as a point of reference. I can switch polarity of energy so that seperate balls of consciousness can seem like me's but not mes. Like how when in your head you might not refer to the fear as yourself but "it" or "the fear" and such.


The memories and the activities of each chakra center shift when you switch from focus to focus. you think all that's there is just the energy there now? moniter it when you play basketball, or when you think about videogames, or when you think about sex. Every little thing changes. The overal chakra health may be find, but it can literally be strong in some points, and weak in others. In that way, you literally have a dimension of wealth in each chakra just like how you as a person switch from mode to mode depending on reaction.

The memories and the activites will shift in this chakra.


The mind is a formless thing which creates forms, so there are laws but basically it works however you've programmed it is how it works.


Some of the things programmed in each chakra or just seperate parts of your energy body in different chakra zones are just pure mental programs that you have created that does not reflect how the mind works but how you THINK it works. It doesn't reflect ultimate reality, it just reflects how you think your mind is effected.


In this way, we make constructs in our minds ALL the time. Just how you may realize that fear in the back of your head or that constant state that you get from listening to that song allows you to progress and triggers that you can point to that as a "construct" if you want.

I'm putting it in a different perspective because if you realize this you realize you program energy all the time that does not deteriate and automatically feeds itself.

In this way all your really doing is going through THE EXACT process you make up thought patterns in your head with energy outside of you.
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When you realize this, traditional thought pattersn of how to make a construct go out the window, because instead of following someone elses guide you realize you HAVE to follow your own. Because the same way you create thought patterns in your head is THE BEST way to create "constructs" or "energy/thought" programs outside of yourself.

the way you link to your subconscious with the memories within your head is the way you would have energy do it as well.

It becomes OBVIOUS to you that energy from different parts of the body does different things and should be used as such and you just don't use solar plexus/heart or just ALL of it generically.

Also you understand more of what a construct can do.

That way you make yourself feel good you can project on to others.
(you have strong determination put it energy and project)
We do this without putting it into a ball and sending it to someone when we laugh and it is contagious.
We do this when you understand the principle of "The way you approach others is the way they approach you" from the perspetcive that everything including what you see creates this outside of 5 senses.

That way you make yourself feel bad yuo can project on to others.
(The way you curse others is the way you curse yourserlf becomes an energetical principle of attack creation beyond just a cool saying.)

But be aware. Those who curse others are doomed to be more cursed than the ones they curse. Because the more you would use such an attack the more you elict subconsciously those thuoght patterns and reinforce them within your being.

There is no avoiding this. Of course, it'll stop hurting when you've been in pain so long you don't know what pleasure is. (fictional allagory on example level only: sub-zero; cold so long he doesn't know what warm is but can freeze others)
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2011, 06:35:47 PM »

Ignoring it makes it go rogue; fail programming makes it go rogue.
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This will allow you to simply consciously think of a construct and have it form for you as you think of it without going through the time consuming process of making a construct with your hands. So, basically you can make constructs instantly just by thinking about it.
Isn't this the basics to making a construct anyways?

Also don't let this sound rude, but Adfeng, doesn't that method seem fluffy to you? Join me or you die, pseudoconscious thoughtform! I dunno, seems superfluous and childish to me, when you can just program obedience in.

What we can get from this is:

The way someone thinks they're mind works is the way it works. And using it to their advantage to make constructs helps.

Even my post up their could be how your reality doesn't work because i'm simply speaking from how my mind works. All our minds work drastically different.


Opinion:

I personally think your zodiac sign mercury interpretation helps see the big different.

i'm
sun cancer - i feel
moon leo - i will
ascended virgo - i analyze

sun sign |bases
moon sign |how you see yourself inside and how your solve problems inside
ascended | how you interpret the world around you and how you want to be seen in relation ship to other two.

To connect this to psi one could say receiving of emotions is easier for me for at base i am a cancer.
sending thought is easier for me for virgo is air mind sign.

This is so with me in real life for emotional connection and interpreting others feelings are easy.
This is true for me in life because I speak to others in life well.


The energy is just going to take on the characteristics of this because the energy has been baving in your consciousness your whole life.

After all, your psionic abilities is just the energetic manifestation of who you are.


Basis: I've been trying to see how peoples zodiac signs play into their strategies when playing games and how their mind works so it's just from talking to people and personal experience.
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