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[meushiman]

I have become a bit unactive on this site and I kinda want to fix that.  So this topic is for that reason, but also to see what other people think.

I was bored one day and after seeing some lady who was talking about UFOs on the Colbert Report, I decided to search in UFO on youtube. Most videos were edited, obviously seen from the people's bad acting skills.  Although, there was one with a bunch of declassified military footage.  It had a lot of stuff that looked like a bunch of nothing (random illuminations moving around and what not), but I guess that's what made it all the more convincing.

Then I watched an episode of UFO hunters on Area 51.  Apparently, they are allowed to shoot you if you go onto their property (meaning they want things there to be kept secret).  Also, at night a camera they set up at a far enough distance not to attract military attention saw a light.  It glowed and did not blink like most aircrafts' lights and after overlaying it with an image of the same location during the daytime, they could see that the light disappeared before it passed behind the mountains.

Doing some calculations, some technical guys on the show calculated that it was moving 3600 mph (who knows how accurate that is).  Earlier in the show, they discussed some guy who claimed to have worked there.  He said that he was working on a downed UFO and trying to reverse engineer it.  After saying this, his identity basically disappeared and the govt said they didn't know him, despite having them in their phone book.

Apparently, the alien spacecraft used an "element 115" (115 refers to the number of protons) as fuel and that the element gave the craft its glow.  The element was surrounded with protons inside a sort of fuel tank and in this way it was bumped up to an unstable element 116.  The reaction is supposedly so powerful that it basically grabs space, surrounds itself in it, and propels itself forward allowing it to move light years away.  Sorry for the length, but thoughts?

[stolide]

Did you know that in the USA I can shoot you if you come on to my property and do not leave when I ask as well?

Try to avoid ad hominem.

Other than that, if you do not cite credible sources for an incredible tale, expect only idiots to believe you.

[yamitenshi]

Element 115 is Ununpentium (Uup). Element 116 is Ununhexium (Uuh). Both have been made in laboratories, and decayed in less than a second. Uuh even decayed in 47 milliseconds.

Sounds like it would give enough radiation energy to be used as a fuel, but with a half-life of less than a second, I doubt it's usable.

The reason they want things secret in Area 51 is probably the same reason they want things secret at the Pentagon, the White House, and basically every corporate meeting across the globe.

Also, the "Trespassers will be shot" sign doesn't mean a thing, in some states anybody is allowed to shoot anybody for being on their property without permission.

Last, but not least, if you were someone in the government, would you publicly admit to knowing some guy crazy enough to think he was working on some impossibly-fueled UFO? Or admit to actually having someone work on some impossibly-fueled UFO? They would've denied having any ties to the guy either way.

[meushiman]

I never said I believed in the idea of aliens and stuff.  Either way, I was not aware of the whole shooting thing.  I guess it would be assumed, but it's not really anything I thought about.

About the element: there is a possibility I made a mistake and they said element 151.  I am almost positive they said element 115.  And yes I am aware of what elements they are.  Maybe they altered the element in some way.  They didn't really go into detail on it.

About reasons for secrecy: of course they want to keep things there secret.  Many aircrafts were built there including the B2!  None of this explains the 3600 mph object.

About sources: The declassified footage stuff I cant find the link for.  It's called ALiens in the NASA Archives-MOre Stunning NASA UFO Anomalies Captured on Film.  The same goes for the UFO hunters episode, but if you just type in on youtube "UFO Hunters area 51" you'll find it

[The Adfeng]

Did you know that in the USA I can shoot you if you come on to my property and do not leave when I ask as well?

Try to avoid ad hominem.

Other than that, if you do not cite credible sources for an incredible tale, expect only idiots to believe you.

I think you also have to prove that he was causing some sort of harm/discomfort to you, or you could probably be charged with murder.  I don't think the court would like you to explain to them that you asked someone to leave your property and then you just shot them.  It wouldn't go down too well, I think.

Then again, that's just my way of interpreting the law.  The judge has the right to do that.

[stolide]

You need to "feel" threatened for that law, and lawyers can endlessly debate on how someone felt, as no concrete evidence can be found for feelings.