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« on: July 28, 2010, 07:24:03 PM » |
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The egg! I'm going on the scientific basis; mutations occurred, which then gave birth to chickens. If the chicken did come first, then how was it created? From a species prior to the chicken. The chicken is different from the previous species because of its DNA. How did the DNA change? From mutations. The chicken was then first an embryo, which I suppose could be considered as the egg. Point being, I'm not sure if the chicken came from a species that laid eggs, but the embryo definitely came first.
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2010, 08:31:40 PM » |
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I'm going on my gut feeling.  I have always thought the egg came first. |
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2010, 08:32:57 PM » |
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This depends on how precisely one defines species. There are many different definitions of speciies, not all of which are biological.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2010, 09:16:43 PM » |
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That depends on one simple thing: Pro-Creation or Pro-Evolution?
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2010, 10:25:47 PM » |
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That depends on one simple thing: Pro-Creation or Pro-Evolution?
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2010, 04:18:11 PM » |
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Pro-Creation: Did God make the egg or the chicken first? Pro-Evolution: Was the first "real" chicken created from a mutated egg that was a chicken egg or otherwise? Pro-Cynic: Who cares?  |
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2010, 05:35:19 PM » |
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http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=115  But seriously...the frying pan came first! ~:Shin:~
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2010, 08:07:30 PM » |
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^"Go cross the road!" xD BTW how could the chicken have come first? If you take evolution, it would have been a mutated egg that was the first "real" chicken, right? You couldn't just mutate from a non-chicken to a chicken without going through the egg. |
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2010, 08:50:19 PM » |
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I happen to find in my library book of weird facts that scientists belive that chickens evolved from the Falcarius utahensis which layed eggs so the egg must have come first. It looks like almost all of us agree on that. |
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2010, 09:05:30 PM » |
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I happen to find in my library book of weird facts that scientists belive that chickens evolved from the Falcarius utahensis which layed eggs so the egg must have come first. It looks like almost all of us agree on that. True dat. Unless you are a pro-creationist. |
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2010, 05:24:14 AM » |
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This depends on how precisely one defines species. There are many different definitions of speciies, not all of which are biological.
The definitions of species used for organisms that are not currently alive are different. Just throwing that out there. Some definitions of species are based entirely upon where the organism lives. |
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2010, 03:39:16 PM » |
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The universe came first. Everything that makes up a chicken was already there before it became a chicken. The first chicken was probably a clump of chemicals on an asteroid for millions of years.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2010, 11:31:14 PM » |
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The universe came first. Everything that makes up a chicken was already there before it became a chicken. The first chicken was probably a clump of chemicals on an asteroid for millions of years.
*Sigh*. That's not an option damnit!  I am more like referring to alive things as well. |
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2010, 03:23:20 PM » |
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I just gave you the answer to life and you want a different one?!
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2010, 07:29:02 AM » |
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Okay...
1.A species is a group of organisms unable to reproduce with any other organisms except the organisms in its group
2.If you are pro-evolutionist, then the egg come first we really dont need to continuily talk about it
3.Most people are pro-evolutionist, even some priests and what not. However, technically you could combine pro-creation and pro-evolution by saying God created the first organism and created evolution, allowing what we have today to become what we have today
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2010, 12:59:36 PM » |
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I say the chicken.
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2010, 10:26:17 AM » |
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I saw news that proved that the chicken came first. It was on yahoo. I forgot about the details.
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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2010, 12:02:33 PM » |
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2010, 08:16:10 AM » |
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I saw news that proved that the chicken came first. It was on yahoo. I forgot about the details.
Provide a link or proof that it was? I don't really trust wikipedia unless it's something that's general knowledge, like George Washington or something similar. I would rather have scientific proof that says that the chicken or the egg came first. Unless that can be provided, I still believe in creation, which is my personal belief. |
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2010, 09:34:16 AM » |
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I saw news that proved that the chicken came first. It was on yahoo. I forgot about the details.
Provide a link or proof that it was? I don't really trust wikipedia unless it's something that's general knowledge, like George Washington or something similar. I would rather have scientific proof that says that the chicken or the egg came first. Unless that can be provided, I still believe in creation, which is my personal belief. Creation does not negate the issue. Creation and Evolution are not mutually exclusive. |
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