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« Reply #60 on: July 31, 2010, 05:56:48 PM »

Wow.  That link didn't say anything about near death experiences really.  It said that he felt like he was shot in the head and the eye and later said he wanted to continue with his life.  So he lived.  But, what is the significance of that please (other than the his survival)?
It shows that someone can get shot in the face from three feet away and can still live. He was not medically dead throughout any point though. And he never directly said that he wanted to continue with his life; he just radioed for help. In fact, he thought he was going to die, ergo his message to the medic to tell his family that he loves them. If you mean radioing for help as "wanting to live", then you are right; otherwise I feel anyone can do this and, like you said, doesn't really prove anything special except his survival.

Pretty much if anyone is shot in the head then it's likely they are going to die. I'm not sure if it's possible to get shot in the brain and still live to tell the tale; I haven't really heard of such possibilities. Maybe Cal can dig a link up or something?  Smiley
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« Reply #61 on: July 31, 2010, 06:12:55 PM »

Well, it said that he wanted to continue on with his life now.  As in after the ordeal.  I know he thought he was dead and what not. 

Being shot in the brain doesn't have to result in death.  If a not so important part is shot then, it's fine.  If a useful part was shot or a part that leads to important parts and could cut off connection to that section was shot, then yeah death
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« Reply #62 on: July 31, 2010, 06:36:56 PM »

Well, it said that he wanted to continue on with his life now.  As in after the ordeal.  I know he thought he was dead and what not.  
Never at one point did he think he was dead. He thought he was going to die, but never that he actually did die.

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Being shot in the brain doesn't have to result in death.  If a not so important part is shot then, it's fine.  If a useful part was shot or a part that leads to important parts and could cut off connection to that section was shot, then yeah death
From what I looked up on the internet it's possible to get shot in the head and live. There's not much links saying what happens if someone gets shot in the brain though. They are either brain-dead or simply dead; I can't find stories that state you can get shot in the brain and still have the ability to function in society.
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One article I found is about a boy that got shot in the head, but he was proclaimed brain-dead. They had him on advanced life support, since doctors wanted to harvest his organs.
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« Reply #63 on: July 31, 2010, 08:09:09 PM »

Gah, you know what I meant.

I know a better story I found researching psionics before I found this site.  A girl had brain cancer and  had one whole hemisphere of her brain cut off.  That would mean one whole part of her body would not function.  I assume she had machines letting all of her organs function.  Either way, she was able to move both parts of her body.  Anyways, this has nothing to do with death
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« Reply #64 on: July 31, 2010, 10:50:48 PM »

I know a better story I found researching psionics before I found this site.  A girl had brain cancer and  had one whole hemisphere of her brain cut off.  That would mean one whole part of her body would not function.  I assume she had machines letting all of her organs function.  Either way, she was able to move both parts of her body.  Anyways, this has nothing to do with death
See though, that's different. The brain surgeons can already map out important areas of her brain and avoid those while performing the surgery. My little brothers friend had one half of his brain taken out, since he had a tumor. He is still able to function, he is just crankier. All of these are supervised and are not spontaneous, like a gunshot or a fork wound to the brain. One also has to pay attention to blood loss. Point being, the bullet would have to scrape the sides of the brain. Hitting it head-on will most likely result in death or a vegetable state.
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« Reply #65 on: August 01, 2010, 12:43:04 PM »

Even though the thought of the after life does gives a beacon of hope that life goes on, as of today, we have no way of accurately determining in a sure way what the afterlife consist of or if it even exist. I think the only way for us to find out is either die ourselves, or wait a few years for scientist to figure out a way to bring back people who have gone under the process of cryopreservation.
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« Reply #66 on: August 09, 2011, 06:32:20 AM »

When you die, your brain cells die because they do not oxygen and your whole body starts to rot and your mind is gone forever. Anyone have evidence to proveme wrong?
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« Reply #67 on: August 09, 2011, 05:18:37 PM »

By the time your brain cells are out of oxygen, you're already dead. Brain death can be caused by a whole lot of things, most of which come down to a disruption of our body's delicate balance of chemicals, but other causes are possible. Either way, this only handles the physical aspect of death. What happens to the mind is unknown. We have no hard evidence to disprove you, but you don't have any solid proof of your claim either.
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« Reply #68 on: August 09, 2011, 06:03:31 PM »

Bullet trauma isn't just in the form of a hole.  There will be a sort of shock wave from the impact, depending on the bullet, that will cause a wound cavity of different shapes/force depending on the range of shot fired, the bullet caliber, the gun it was fired from, etc.  So while there was a famous example of someone who lived after a pipe went through their skull, it's very unlikely the brain will remain functional after a direct shot to the brain...  Not just the hole but you have to consider the sudden increase in pressure the displacement of fluids and the like the impact will cause which will likely mean terrible damage.
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