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« on: January 18, 2010, 03:56:31 PM »

1) Generate 50 random numbers from data generated by atmospheric noise or nuclear degeneration.*

2) Send to 2-3 TRUSTED people and have them keep the copy.

3) Ask test subject(s) to use whatever psionic method at their disposal to figure out the 50 numbers.

4) Send results to ALL the trusted people and have them all post the real numbers at the same predefined time on an online forum.

5) See if results match.

6) Calculate random probability of results.

7) Rinse n repeat!

* A nice preset?  3 trusted, 1 week limit, 50 numbers of range 1-10 all positive integers.

Verifiable testing is easy. Having the courage to balls up and prove something to skeptics is slightly more difficult. So there, that's proof, assuming trusted people are reliable. Now if we don't prove this to them we will be proving something else to them: That they are correct to accuse us of shying away from a challenge to provide proof yet again.

Don't let this disgrace fall upon us, peeps! Let's do this!

{I have generated 50 numbers 1-10 positive numerals. PM me if you want to be a trusted or if you want to participate. PROOF TIME!}

Someone please repost on the mythbusters forum. I will of course take some trusteds from that forum as well to provide extra verification.

Numbers CAN REPEAT!



////////Begin Experiment

Apply for experiment by pming me.
50 positive, 1 to 10, can be repeated.
Guess all 50, in no particular order, to me and send as PM as well as posting online on or before Jan 21, 2010.
This is -preliminary testing- to establish logical baselines, so you should guess.
Actual testing will use the same numbers and same case, but with psionic means only.
ONLY ONE guess ticket per person to make the probability easier.

Guess ticket format as follows:

Name:
Date: mm/dd/yyyy

Numbers
x.xxx x x x x x x x x x
x x x x x x x x x x
x x x x x x x x x x
x x x x x x x x x x
x x x x x x x x x x
(decimal guesses should be no longer than 8 didgets, if longer try to change to fractions ><)
Verification Code: {Code given by pm after you pm me with request to try.}

/end ticket

/end experiment.

Changes to experiment can be suggested to me on or before the end of preliminary testing, 1/21/10

Please post copy of this post on the mythbusters forum.

Note proof that numbers are accurate and valid from random.org will have a screenshot of the numbers in random.org form with timestamp provided by the site, as such

except these are not the numbers being used.


NOTE: Timestamp of numbers being used is Timestamp: 2010-01-18 21:35:56 UTC
Someone please repost this text to QFT, as well as saving a copy to ensure I do not edit anything.


This is a copy of the post at http://shiftedperspectives.net/forum/index.php/topic,1117.msg13607.html#msg13607
This experiment is meant to prove or disprove psionics.
Please post a copy on the mythbusters forum.
Edit: In response to certain queries, there is no zero.
Edit2: Reading my mind, if you even succeed, will not get you the numbers. I saved the numbers via screenshot but I did not see them personally.

Get your friends and tell them to do this!  

All you have to do now is

1) Reply on topic or by PM to me saying you'll participate.

2) Guess 50 numbers (positive, between 1 n 10)

3) Send list of 50 numbers to me in format shown above by 1/21/10
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 04:56:56 PM »

Notagh, thanks a lot for doing this and also I posted your post on the mythbusters website.  I'll get you the link to the mysthbusters site: http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9701967776/m/35419579301/p/3

Oh and we're going to need a math guy for the calculations.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 04:57:40 PM »

I can be the math guy, but something tells me the mythbusters forum will be very happy to show off their AP probability skillz.

meushiman  your post on mythbusters never showed up.

Edit: I received your numbers, but I won't release the results until deadline. That means I won't tell you how amazingly well you did until deadline Tongue

Edit 2: There is no zero, as I previously stated. All 0's will be counted as 10's. Not all of the numbers may be used.

It'd be a lot easier for me if you guys list the number in counting order when sending to me... please....

Remember, on January 21, 2010 post your numbers on the topic, and REMEMBER NOT TO EDIT THE POST. If you edit the post your entry will be disqualified. Replace all 0's with tens. If you alter your entry's numbers (other than changing 0's to 10's) you will be disqualified
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2010, 05:03:52 PM »

Wait a minute the site didn't let me reply

Edit:  It says topic closed on the site.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2010, 10:48:14 PM »

Hmmm. Isn't that interesting? You are going to go and prove Psionics to them, so they lock the topic.
(Btw, I finally hit 50 posts. I guess I'm earning my staff job, eh?)
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2010, 03:31:43 PM »

I made a new topic...or so I thought.  I couldn't find it again and I searched it under find.  I'll try and make another one
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 04:15:53 PM »

EDIT: More people have sent me guesses, so I take this post back Tongue
(Number answers posted 1/22 by me and people trusted with the numbers.)
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2010, 03:37:18 PM »

Wait, where do I post my answers?  Notagh, you said to post it, but the mythbusters sight won't allow me to unless they approve my topic.  Ah, who cares?  Here they are:
1, 4, 6, 8, 9, 7, 3, 2, 10, 9, 2, 3, 5, 8, 10, 1, 7, 6, 4, 2, 9, 2, 3, 6, 8, 4, 2, 1, 4, 5, 9, 10, 1, 8, 3, 6, 7, 4, 2, 5, 3, 7, 6, 4, 9, 10, 5, 2, 7, 9
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 03:43:47 PM »

You posted in the right place, which is this topic.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2010, 03:47:56 PM »

Good, so other people must post!
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2010, 02:31:38 PM »

http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=6941912904&f=9701967776&m=3461966559&r=88919211401#88919211401

This is the new site for the mythbusters thread on psionics.  Someone already had a post on psionics, qigong, ki, and psi, so I used that because the people on the mythbusters site wouldn't allow me to make a new thread
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2010, 04:08:19 PM »

Today's the day, people! No more submissions. Those who have pm'd me their submissions will be allowed to post theirs -today-. Not tomorrow, not today 12PM, TODAY.

Thanks for participating people!

(This concludes the sampling stage of the preliminary experimentation. Scores will be calculated tomorrow. There will be a 2nd, and if neccissary a 3rd experiment. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IN THESE FURTHER EXPERIMENTS! The more the better, and you never know* whether or not you may be skilled in such things!)

*As this experiment is designed to prove/disprove that luck is not the factor in this psionic ability, you will have to have results that are enough of an improbability that luck is not a factor. (70%+) Therefore luck won't help you much, sorry. Tongue

May the chances always be in your favor!
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2010, 04:15:05 PM »

5 4 8 3 10 1 9 3 2 8 7 4 2 9 10 6 7 4 2 1 6 5 8 9 3 8 5 10 4 2 5 7 2 4 9 7 6 6 8 1 4 8 9 3 7 6 10 4 8 1

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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2010, 04:20:48 PM »

These are the numbers Notagh let me hold on to...

Edit:  Don't post yet.  He said in 2 hours.

Sorry, didn't see him say that...
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2010, 04:38:07 PM »

Numbers:

Check that the timestamp is the same as posted in original post, they are and that proves when the numbers were made which proves their validity Tongue

Onto the math:
I don't like probability. At all. Sad
Adfeng's probability, at 78% or 39/50
Chances of getting this specific result:
.1^39 * .9^11 = 2.2876792454961 * 10^-37
All no. of  ways to get 39 correct of 50:
50!/(50-39)!/39! = 50!/(50-11)!/11! = 37 353 738 800 = 3.73537388 * 10^10 = 1e10 * 3.73537388
Therefore chances of this result, or rather any result that equals 39 right out of 50 in this type of number experiment should be
2.2876792454961 * 10^-37 / 3.73537388 * 10^10  or 8.545337299444239581868 * 10^-47
, if I'm correct.
Oh, this also means you should stay inside from now on Adfeng. Your chances of being hit by lighting during your lifetime, calculated by the some national weather institute or the other is 1.33333333 × 10-6, much, MUCH more of a chance than the "chance" of you guessing 39/50 of those numbers right.
Three cheers for adfeng, the first psion to be scientifically and mathematically proven beyond chance and all reasonable doubt that I know of. Go win the lottery 5 times or something, screw Randi's puny million dollar prize. Mega millions jackpots hit 100 million +!
This goes into your sig:
First psion to be scientifically and mathematically proven valid beyond all reasonable doubt on 01/22/2010
Don't diss and/or complain if I'm wrong, I'm not old enough for my school to bother teaching me about ax^2+bx+c yet. Seriously.
Now starting the math on meushiman
34/50 right, or 68%
50!/(50-34)!/34! = 50!/(50-16)!/16! = 4.923689695575 * 10^12 or 4.923689695575 * 1e12
.1^34 * .9^16 = 1.853020188851841 * 10^-35 or 1.853020188851841 * 1e-35
so 4.923689695575 * 1e12/1.853020188851841 * 1e-35 = 2.657116055829802757597309560000082539359776089816258... x 10^-23
Not bad for you, too! Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2010, 05:06:47 PM »

What does the statistics/probability mean?
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2010, 05:11:35 PM »

What does the statistics/probability mean?
Read n reply to my edit.
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2010, 05:30:28 PM »

Good. And I have to agree with Notagh, Adfeng. Go win the lottery a few times, xD.
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2010, 05:39:46 PM »

Good. And I have to agree with Notagh, Adfeng. Go win the lottery a few times, xD.
Why don't you post the numbers I sent you?

EDIT: Someone check my math please. It's calculating probability of guessing x out of 50 numbers right done via probability of Getting this specific set of x out of 50/All no. of ways to get x out of 50 as result. x was an impressive 39 for Adfeng, 34 for meushiman. (Also impressive)

EDIT2: Nobody guessed a decimal or fraction answer, which was smart considering this particular roll produced none Tongue
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2010, 05:43:26 PM »

Okay :3.

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